Hi all,

The question is:

What Exactly Is The YORWW???

JDW

I remember them on paltalk alot. Just another blend of WT drama

        Another Religious Cult..

                                                                                   .................. ...OUTLAW

                         This Thread is..

 Charles Manson Approved..

                                                     .................. ...OUTLAW

Tell me,

How do you successfully set up a cult ... when the person [unsuspecting JW] never leaves his house?

He stays at home, and examines all the written material from the comfort of his own home, thousands of miles away, on the net ... privately. Just like people do when they come here, to JW.Net.

Quote:

http://www.singnewsong.com/php3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=481&p=717#p717

The YORWW ["Yah Our Righteousness World Wide" based upon Jeremiah 33:16] is an INTERNATIONAL INTERNET CHURCH or organization (recently home-based in beautiful Jamaica, West Indies), and only that. Everything concerning the church is done on the internet, and only the internet. In other words, for the time being, there are no official church buildings being built or being used for worship. Only "private homes" (Acts 5:42 Complete Jewish Bible]) are used for meetings and/or occasionally, available public facilities. (Acts 19:9) Thus, no kingdom halls nor places of worship are built or owned by congregation members, in keeping with the example set for us by first century Christians.

Also, please keep this very important point in mind too. Stealth ... is the key word with YORWW. You see, if a secretive Jehovah's Witness was going to secret meetings of the YORWW at a physical location, couldn't that person be MONITORED ... isn't that true? Yes, someone could watch that person, leave his home and follow that person to the designated point of destination, a known place or house of APOSTATES ... to attend secret meetings!!! Isn't that so??? Didn't Jesus himself, face the EXACT SAME SITUATION with the Pharisees wanting to EXPEL any and all who wanted to give Jesus a listening ear? Even going to the point of sending secret "spies" to feign interest, so that they could somehow thwart Jesus' righteous ministry? And further, going so far as to threaten to expel anyone from the synogogue of the Jewish Nation, caught listening to Jesus ... didn't they do this? (Luke 20:20; John 9:22; John 16:2) Therefore, with such wicked ones, wicked leaders of the nation, it is no surprise that such a situation exists today, as wicked opponents of the YORWW wish to bring us down, given the possibility of a sincere person (from among Jehovah's Witnesses) could want to be a "secret disciple" of our movement too. However, that possible danger has been avoided completely, using our method. Yes, a sincere Jehovah's Witness, could "secretly," in the complete privacy of his/her own home, in his "basement" even, could HAVE CHURCH, HAVE ASSOCIATION and SPIRITUAL EDIFICATION, yes, "incite to love and fine works" even, without anyone knowing. In fact, didn't Jesus actually have "secret" disciples, who came to him ... only "IN THE NIGHT?" -- See Luke 12:3; John 3:2; John 12:42; John 19:38; Hebrews 10:24, 25.

Think about it!

So then, the YORWW's way, is the best way to handle all such situations, using the INTERNET CHURCH method. Think about it!

End of quote.

You guys are not making sense...

JDW

Don't wish to be rude, but it is obvious that YORWW has not got far from the trap that is religious belief in general.

Just another cult ? I think so.

                Now it`s Time to..

  Sacrifice a Chicken!..

                                           .................. ...OUTLAW

An internet church? What exactly is that? More narrow minded people looking for similar people to be "right" so that others can be "wrong"?

Outlaw, save the chicken from sacrifice. They're better fried. ;)

Tell me,

How do you successfully set up a cult ... when the person [unsuspecting JW] never leaves his house?

He stays at home, and examines all the written material from the comfort of his own home, thousands of miles away, on the net ... privately.

Cults evolve.  Russell started more or less the same way.  When the behemoth becomes bloated with power, it bursts with corruption of power.

It's just an offshoot from the JW's who are an offshoot from the Bible Students who were an offshoot of the Millerites who were an offshoot of Protestantism that broke away from the Catholic Church who, under instructions from Constantine, pieced the New Testament together out of various myths and legends in an effort to stop religious bickering by forming one religion that was acceptable to the many cults, both Christian and Pagan, that abounded at the time.

About as far removed from "Jesus" as you can be then ?

Under the surface they are exactly the same as the Watchtower.

A supremacist deluded leader who wants followers for himself instead of Jesus and hence is "militantly ignorant" towards the "good news ABOUT Jesus" (who leads people away from religion/ists).

Promoting anti-Christ and anti-gospel supremacist self-righteousness by means of following the "right" rules (legalism), the "right morals" (moralism), the "right" doctrines (ethnocentrism), and the "right" knowledge (Gnosticism).

NOT "Christ centred" and not "gosspel focussed". More "Christless Christianity" or "Pagan Christianity".

In short, all the other posters are right on the money on YORWW.

Sorry if you were hoping for validation instead - only YORWW would be able to supply that.

WHAT EXACTLY IS THE YORWW???

The YORWW ["Yah Our Righteousness" World Wide based upon Jeremiah 33:16] is an INTERNATIONAL INTERNET CHURCH or organization, which recently since 2006, is home-based in beautiful Jamaica, West Indies. Everything concerning the church is done on the internet. In other words, for the time being, there are no official church buildings being built or being used for worship. Only "private homes" (Acts 5:42 Complete Jewish Bible) are used for meetings and/or occasionally, available public facilities. (Acts 19:9) Thus, no "kingdom halls" [Jehovah's Witnesses meeting places] or physical church buildings, or any physical places of worship are built by congregation members, in keeping with the example set for us by first century Christians.

Some have wondered and asked us: "Are you Jehovah's Witnesses"? 

Actually, no we are not recognized members of that organization. However, this group [YORWW] actually began back in the Spring of 1991, with 16 FORMER Jehovah's Witnesses as founding [TWMC] Members, or as "Locusts", who were most privileged to participate in the five (5) month "First Woe" of Revelation 9:1-12 upon wicked Modern-day Spiritual "Israel" [or Jehovah's Witnesses], fulfilling actual bible prophecy ... yes, back in the year of 1991. Additionally, our unique group was actually formed on a most important date, that of the commemoration of the Jewish Nation's Special Observance that is known as, the "33rd Day Of Omer or Lag BaOmer" too. Back in the year of 1991, that particular day of observance for the Jewish Nation, fell on the 1st day of May, after sundown. To be sure, that particular Jewish Observance itself in the future, will prove to be quite significant for all lovers of truth, earthwide.

Thus, our spiritual "ministry" then originally started out as an exclusive OUTREACH "MINISTRY" for Jehovah's Witnesses only, as the "lost sheep" of the "House of Israel," in harmony with the very words and "ministry" of Jesus Christ himself. (SeeMatthew 10:6; Matthew 15:24.) However as time passed, and as our literature clearly points out, that "ministry" of ours now includes the Nation of Jamaica, which we believe will be used by "JAH" [Jehovah] as He is often referred to on the island itself, as yes, a REPLACEMENT NATION for the Jehovah's Witnesses because of years of disobedience to God's Commands for them. (See Psalms 68:4; Matthew 21:43.) The following links shown below will help reveal that fact for you, and make it easier to understand exactly what we are saying. 

Link # 1: http://yorww.com/wilderness.html

Link #2: http://yorww.com/mission.html

Since Jehovah's Witnesses find themselves in exactly the same type of situation (needing, yes even requiring 'Messiah-like' spiritual "liberation") as did the Jewish Nation of Jesus' day, we've noticed many, many similarities between the two, namely the Jewish Nation of Jesus' day, led by the wicked Pharisees and religious leaders of that time, and the modern-day spiritual leadership of Jehovah's Witnesses and the powerful hold they have upon the "skinned & thrown about" sheep of the flock we refer to as "Jehovah's Witnesses." (Matthew 9:36) Indeed, we find just as in Jesus' day, these religious leaders wish to "keep the people down" by effectively "taking away the key of knowledge" as Jesus said, yes, away from the people. We today know, Jesus faced many hardships in trying to spiritually reach the bewildered people of his time, is that not so? Yes, it was quite difficult for Jesus to do this. In many instances, the bible tells us even, "stealth" or "secrecy" was used to accomplish this task. -- Matthew 21:43; Luke 11:52


Yes, stealth ... is the key word here. And yes, "stealth" can be an acceptable means, for individuals [under powerful oppression by leadership] to finally learn the liberating truth, in our day. (John 8:32) So with the YORWW today, we know many Jehovah's Witnesses wish to ask us questions about our outreach ministry toward them. However, in many, many instances, they find themselves very, very afraid of the leadership of the Jehovah's Witnesses organization, and so refrain from doing so. They are afraid they may even be found out, and expelled from the congregations of Jehovah's Witnesses...just like in Jesus' day. -- See John 3:2; John 9:22; John 19:38. 

For instance, if a secretive Jehovah's Witness was observed going to secret meetings of the YORWW at perhaps, a certain physical location, couldn't that person be MONITORED ... isn't that true? Yes, someone could watch that person, leave his home and follow that person to the designated point of destination, a known place or house of APOSTATES ... to attend secret meetings!!! Isn't that so??? Didn't Jesus himself, face the EXACT SAME SITUATION with the Pharisees wanting to EXPEL any and all who wanted to give Jesus a listening ear? Even going to the point of sending secret "spies" to feign interest, so that they could somehow thwart Jesus' righteous ministry? And further, going so far as to threaten to expel anyone from the synogogueof the Jewish Nation, caught listening to Jesus ... didn't they do this? (Luke 20:20; John 9:22; John 16:2) Therefore, with such wicked ones, wicked leaders of the nation, it is no surprise that such a situation exists today, as wicked opponents of the YORWW wish to bring us down, given the possibility of a sincere person (from among Jehovah's Witnesses) could want to be a "secret disciple" of our movement too. However, that possible danger has been avoided completely, using our method. Yes, a sincere Jehovah's Witness, could "secretly," in the complete privacy of his/her own home, in his "basement" even, could HAVE CHURCH, HAVE ASSOCIATION and SPIRITUAL EDIFICATION, yes, "incite to love and fine works" even, without anyone knowing. In fact, didn't Jesus actually have "secret" disciples, who came to him ... only "IN THE NIGHT?" -- See Luke 12:3; John 3:2; John 12:42; John 19:38; Hebrews 10:24, 25.

Think about it!

So then, the YORWW's way, is the best way to handle all such situations, using the INTERNET CHURCH method. Think about it!

To be sure, for the time being, the YORWW believes they should operate strictly in the "wilderness," from that particular perspective ... doing God's work from there. We believe this is biblical too. We [YORWW] all believe, we have voluntarily left the "city" [apostate "Jerusalem"], righteously yes, " ABANDONING" it, yes righteously "JUDGING" it, per Jehovah's Divine Instructions for such dire circumstances! (See Ezekiel 23:36, 45; Matthew 24:40, 41. NWT)! To be sure, we believe such is actually recommended even, by the very example Jesus set for all first century Jewish Christians found at Hebrews 13:13, 14. Yes, the YORWW fully heeds Jesus' admonition which said to "FLEE ... Jerusalem!" (Matthew 24:15-22) Oh, yes, the YORWW has done this, so that they can truly be with Jehovah & Jesus, whom they say today have also ABANDONED the "city" itself, because of national apostasy, and who now ... actually dwells "OUTSIDE THE CITY" too. -- See Deuteronomy 23:14; 2 Timothy 3:5.

For more details on the above information, please see the article entitled: 

YORWW -- A Voice In The Wilderness & Beacon Of Light For All Jehovah's Witnesses!!!

All YORWW members firmly believe they must speak out though, from the wilderness, as recommended at Proverbs 31:8, 9. No, they cannot keep quiet about the spiritual atrocities and truly "detestable things" being committed and tolerated in modern-day apostate "Jerusalem," the city that 'carries God's Name upon it' ... over 100,000 Congregations of Jehovah's Witnesses world wide! -- Jeremiah 25:29; Ezekiel 9:4

As in ancient times during the prophet "Elijah's" day, the YORWW refuses to work under the leadership of wicked modern-day "Ahab-like" and "Jezebel-like" leadership, thus imitating the prophet "Elijah," who fled the nation during such a critical time as this. Yes, he fled, when national apostasy was going on for the nation of Israel. Thus, because of these dire circumstances of apostasy, the YORWW Congregation says they believe they also are the "voice in the wilderness" speaking strictly to all congregations of Jehovah's Witnesses. Like Jesus, the YORWW Congregation believes they were only sent, yes, to the "House of Israel," Jehovah's Witnesses. (Matthew 10:6; Matthew 15:24) This is how the YORWW Congregation sees their "ministry" ... it is thus, strictly to Jehovah's Witnesses, but now more recently, it also includes the Island of Jamaica. Praise Jah!

And of course, the YORWW sees this particular activity of theirs, as fulfilling the prophecy of Isaiah 40:3. They say, they will undauntedly continue to do this, without letup until full spiritual restoration comes from Jehovah God and Jesus Christ to the Jehovah's Witnesses as a people, even if only a small remnant should repent, as in the first century. (Acts 3:19) In this way, the YORWW Congregation says they become like a "prophet", like Elijah and John the Baptist, today, speaking to Modern Day "Israel," advocating repentance. And so in this capacity, they wish to remain in the "wilderness" and let the people GO OUT TO THEM, just like the prophet Elijah was contacted back in his day, as well as how John the Baptist was contacted in his day. (1 Kings 17:2, 3; Mark 1:4, 5) Indeed, we remember Jesus said John the Baptist was considered the greatest prophet before Jesus came. (Matthew 11:11.) The YORWW Congregation thus says, the position they have taken, is well-rooted in Holy Scripture. It is all scripturally-based. -- See Matthew 19:28; Acts 3:20, 21; Hebrews 13:13, 14.

The YORWW church is thus, surprisingly to many, not organized into small groups just yet (that comes later), but they recommend that individuals or families ... just stay at home and just read the literature distributed, as it appears on discussion boards and printed periodicals released (by way of TV & Radio appearances, newspaper articles written, printed flyers distributed, etc.) all written by the Modern-Day "Chieftain" of God's Newly Established Earthly Temple. (Ezekiel 44:3) The YORWW says they ultimately are waiting on Jehovah and Jesus to take ACTION first, after the "son of man," the Modern Day "Servant" is to be "revealed" by miraculous means. (Isaiah 4:2 KJV, ESV, NIV, ASV; Isaiah 49:1-7; Isaiah 59:19, 20; Isaiah 66:18, 19; Luke 17:24, 30) Then too, YORWW Congregation members continue to feed upon information being regularly posted at various discussion boards owned by them, that are made available today for membership, like: 

SingNewSong Discussion Board ( http://www.singnewsong.com ) or, 

CrossingEuphrates Discussion Board ( http://www.crossingeuphrates.com ) or, 

LivingWatersForum ( http://www.livingwatersforum.com ).

Usually on these particular membership-only discussion boards, the "blinds" are often "pulled" to obviously keep outsiders (like the WTBTS and enemies of faith) from seeing exactly whats really going on there...stealth & secrecy in action, always for the YORWW. Therefore, usually, one cannot read information from these boards, unless they have a membership...except upon rare occurences.

Also, YORWW members keep up with the newest blogs being put up (See http://www.yorww.com/40blogsyorww.htm ) where over 40 blogs, on ultra timely topics are shown and made available to the general public.

Indeed, this group has been organized and in operation for over Twenty (20) years, operating completely in the "wilderness" away from the Kingdom Halls of Jehovah's Witnesses, since officially May 1991. The YORWW doesn't reveal their exact membership, how many members, where they live and so on, but always keeps this type of information completely confidential since many readers of their literature are still present in the Jehovah's Witnesses Organization and would be disfellowshiped if the WTBTS could find this info out.

However please note, one report did reveal, back in December 2004 for instance, on the LivingWatersForum Board, over24,000 people [unique IPs] from all over the world, visited and read the chronology/1914 article within a 36-hour period. But, those are the only numbers being released at this time.

No doubt over a twenty (20) year period, the YORWW has contacted literally countless thousands of individuals from virtually every country around the world, anywhere Jehovah's Witnesses live. Here is a link describing the various methods used by the YORWW to contact these individuals:

http://www.thereportbook.com/home.html

Remember, because of National Apostasy, the YORWW Church or Congregation operates much like the prophet "Elijah" of old and also John the Baptist. John we remember, did his work just before Jesus came. Similarly, the YORWW (founded by all Ex-Jehovah's Witnesses) believe we are too in the same position today, as those two prophets of old, just before the "waiting" Jesus, "waits" for full and complete spiritual "restoration" occurs for "Israel" away from apostasy, and "waits" for this to be accomplished by "Elijah," as he promised, ... just before the "fear-inspiring" Day of Jehovah comes. -- Malachi 4:4, 5; Matthew 17:10, 11, Matthew 19:28; Acts 3:20, 21

Think about it!

Donald C. Burney [AKA yorww]

PS: Why not visit our News Page at http://www.YORWW.com to see the latest news releases from the YORWW Congregation to the general public in the Caribbean!

Jamaica, Home of the YORWW Congregation!!!

G4nB